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	<title>Comments on: Check out the Typography on Joe Clark&#8217;s site</title>
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	<description>Web design and that</description>
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		<title>By: Pär</title>
		<link>http://meganmcdermott.com/2007/02/19/check-out-the-typography-on-joe-clarks-site/comment-page-1/#comment-14891</link>
		<dc:creator>Pär</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but the text in the screenshot that uses Calibri is almost unreadable for me... The letters almost seem broken. The one that uses Georgia is much-much easier to read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but the text in the screenshot that uses Calibri is almost unreadable for me&#8230; The letters almost seem broken. The one that uses Georgia is much-much easier to read.</p>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
		<link>http://meganmcdermott.com/2007/02/19/check-out-the-typography-on-joe-clarks-site/comment-page-1/#comment-4904</link>
		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 13:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And there&#039;s no reason why multiple people couldn&#039;t have had the same idea completely independently either.

I like the way Joe did that better than Happy Cog&#039;s. His makes more sense since he&#039;s got so many links on diverse topics to show. Happy Cog&#039;s seems sort of self-indulgent to me but that more because of they way they wrote it (about them not what they can do for the client). And it doesn&#039;t work when you don&#039;t read every word. Joe&#039;s does.

Edit: this was posted before Jason&#039;s comment was released from the moderation queue. So it was a reply to Adam&#039;s post, not Jason&#039;s :) I would not have responded this way to someone actually involved with the design!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And there&#8217;s no reason why multiple people couldn&#8217;t have had the same idea completely independently either.</p>
<p>I like the way Joe did that better than Happy Cog&#8217;s. His makes more sense since he&#8217;s got so many links on diverse topics to show. Happy Cog&#8217;s seems sort of self-indulgent to me but that more because of they way they wrote it (about them not what they can do for the client). And it doesn&#8217;t work when you don&#8217;t read every word. Joe&#8217;s does.</p>
<p>Edit: this was posted before Jason&#8217;s comment was released from the moderation queue. So it was a reply to Adam&#8217;s post, not Jason&#8217;s <img src='http://meganmcdermott.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I would not have responded this way to someone actually involved with the design!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Santa Maria</title>
		<link>http://meganmcdermott.com/2007/02/19/check-out-the-typography-on-joe-clarks-site/comment-page-1/#comment-4902</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Santa Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 11:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Full disclosure: The sentence navigation idea came up when Z and I were brainstorming. He thought it would be cool, and I agreed. Later he came across Megnut and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.beanology.com/index.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Beanology&lt;/a&gt;, and wondered if if we should abandon the idea. But, we both agreed that we could do it more clearly and concisely. Even though other people are doing similar things, the bulk of the internet is doing a similar thing in &quot;standard&quot; navigation. It seemed like the road less travelled would be an interesting thing to try on our site. We know full well the idea wasn&#039;t ours first, and we never claimed it was, but we did devise the idea and how it applies to our site on our own. Hope that helps clarify things :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Full disclosure: The sentence navigation idea came up when Z and I were brainstorming. He thought it would be cool, and I agreed. Later he came across Megnut and <a href="http://www.beanology.com/index.php" rel="nofollow">Beanology</a>, and wondered if if we should abandon the idea. But, we both agreed that we could do it more clearly and concisely. Even though other people are doing similar things, the bulk of the internet is doing a similar thing in &#8220;standard&#8221; navigation. It seemed like the road less travelled would be an interesting thing to try on our site. We know full well the idea wasn&#8217;t ours first, and we never claimed it was, but we did devise the idea and how it applies to our site on our own. Hope that helps clarify things <img src='http://meganmcdermott.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Adam H</title>
		<link>http://meganmcdermott.com/2007/02/19/check-out-the-typography-on-joe-clarks-site/comment-page-1/#comment-4896</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zeldman and the happy cog team don&#039;t seem to be saying exactly where that idea came from. On Jason Santa Maria&#039;s blog a reader &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jasonsantamaria.com/archive/2007/02/07/happy_cog_redesign.php#11&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;comments about the navigation&lt;/a&gt; idea coming from &lt;a href=&quot;http://megnut.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;megnut&lt;/a&gt; which Jason and another denies.

It is impossible these days for a team to fully disclose all the sites that went into the thought process for designing a new site. We all look at thousands of sites a week that each in their own way make a slight impression on us. And the Internet has made us all lazy so it is easier to cite the most prevalent as the origin instead of doing actual research on the history of something. Unfortunately I&#039;m too lazy to look up an example of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zeldman and the happy cog team don&#8217;t seem to be saying exactly where that idea came from. On Jason Santa Maria&#8217;s blog a reader <a href="http://www.jasonsantamaria.com/archive/2007/02/07/happy_cog_redesign.php#11" rel="nofollow">comments about the navigation</a> idea coming from <a href="http://megnut.com/" rel="nofollow">megnut</a> which Jason and another denies.</p>
<p>It is impossible these days for a team to fully disclose all the sites that went into the thought process for designing a new site. We all look at thousands of sites a week that each in their own way make a slight impression on us. And the Internet has made us all lazy so it is easier to cite the most prevalent as the origin instead of doing actual research on the history of something. Unfortunately I&#8217;m too lazy to look up an example of this.</p>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
		<link>http://meganmcdermott.com/2007/02/19/check-out-the-typography-on-joe-clarks-site/comment-page-1/#comment-4894</link>
		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a nice use of script on the blog! Who ever uses script in normal text (besides you!)? Most of us abandoned that option long ago but not for good reason, it appears. I think that&#039;s probably a habit leftover from the days of font tags and Windows 98 era font options.

I am going to have to go looking for some sort of reference on which fonts are availble on different operating systems. A lot of people have been waiting for the ability to specify any font but if you do your research you can get good results just by specifying a lot of possible options.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a nice use of script on the blog! Who ever uses script in normal text (besides you!)? Most of us abandoned that option long ago but not for good reason, it appears. I think that&#8217;s probably a habit leftover from the days of font tags and Windows 98 era font options.</p>
<p>I am going to have to go looking for some sort of reference on which fonts are availble on different operating systems. A lot of people have been waiting for the ability to specify any font but if you do your research you can get good results just by specifying a lot of possible options.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Clark</title>
		<link>http://meganmcdermott.com/2007/02/19/check-out-the-typography-on-joe-clarks-site/comment-page-1/#comment-4892</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The homepage is the best that my friends and I could put together. (I assume you refer to joeclark.org.) And we were pioneers in the prose navigation style that Zeldman is now getting props for.

BTW, the Windows Vista fonts have been in my CSS for a year and a half. Yes, really.

You checked blog.fawny.org ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The homepage is the best that my friends and I could put together. (I assume you refer to joeclark.org.) And we were pioneers in the prose navigation style that Zeldman is now getting props for.</p>
<p>BTW, the Windows Vista fonts have been in my CSS for a year and a half. Yes, really.</p>
<p>You checked blog.fawny.org ?</p>
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		<title>By: Adam H</title>
		<link>http://meganmcdermott.com/2007/02/19/check-out-the-typography-on-joe-clarks-site/comment-page-1/#comment-4891</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve really been enjoying the resurgence of serif lately. Specifically &lt;a href=&quot;http://nytimes.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The New York Times redesign&lt;/a&gt;. I also ran into &lt;a href=&quot;http://gr0w.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Grow Collective&lt;/a&gt; via an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.inspirationbit.com/get-inspired-by-8-bits-of-exquisite-typography/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;article&lt;/a&gt; I dug up at Ma.gnolia which has a beautiful design.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve really been enjoying the resurgence of serif lately. Specifically <a href="http://nytimes.com" rel="nofollow">The New York Times redesign</a>. I also ran into <a href="http://gr0w.com/" rel="nofollow">Grow Collective</a> via an <a href="http://www.inspirationbit.com/get-inspired-by-8-bits-of-exquisite-typography/" rel="nofollow">article</a> I dug up at Ma.gnolia which has a beautiful design.</p>
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		<title>By: Calvin Allen</title>
		<link>http://meganmcdermott.com/2007/02/19/check-out-the-typography-on-joe-clarks-site/comment-page-1/#comment-4888</link>
		<dc:creator>Calvin Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 03:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with you, the font does seem incredibily smooth.  

Also, that picture was so bright, it hurt my eyes :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with you, the font does seem incredibily smooth.  </p>
<p>Also, that picture was so bright, it hurt my eyes <img src='http://meganmcdermott.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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